Branches of Chen taiji
2 November 2005
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How many different type of barehand Chen taiji routines have you learn or heard of ?
- Old Frame Routine 1
- Old Frame Routine 2
- New Frame Routine 1
- New Frame Routine 2
- Small Frame Routine 1
- Small Frame Routine 2
- Old Frame 38 Strokes by Chen XiaoWang
- Old Frame 19 Strokes by Chen Zhenglei
- Competition Routine- 56 Strokes
- more…….
As Chen taiji get more popular we will start to see more “creative” routines…maybe one day we will see “Power Chen taiji”???
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all of them and somr others
how about Fengzhiqiang”s Hun- yuan Chen style And Kan Gui Xiang’s?
oh yeah FengZhiqiang hunyun systems is quite popular too.
Kan Guixiang is the 56 competitive routine right?
Kan is the co-creator of the 56 form,she also has her own 36
Chen simplify, and don’t forget ZHAO PAO CHEN STYLE.
zhao bao players tend to see their as a seperate style rather than associated their style with chen. :p
it is just like the old frame players think they are the ONLY oringinal,but
any variation within taichi principle and theory is enriched taichi family.
even zhaobao now has many branches like small, big frame, He small, big frame and hulei frame etc.
some Zhabao followers called themselves Wudang Zhabao, and the He do’st like it, even in Hulei there’s Xing Frame, KungFu Frame etc. same as YiRu and Er RU,there are too many forms in Chen style, let alone the whole TaiChi Family,as a TAICHI practioner to know or learn more
is quite confusing
yeah yilu is also the kung fu jia.
but i dun quite get what you mean about he and wudang….
that’s becos i have got a book and the title is Wudang Zhaobao xiao jiao taiji quan and actually it is He small frame. So i can’t tell why, when you said, He didn’t like the association to Wudang.
care to elaborate?
well…thought we are never sure if taijiquan came from wudang if chen wanting from chen village was the creator of taijiquan.
my guess that wudang was used as an anchor to the name;P
people always say the WUDANG’S Zhang San Feng is the creator of TAICHI, but CHEN and ZHAOBAO never agreed
The 18 stroke is Chen Zhenglei and the 19 stroke is Chen xiaowang
which one do you think is better, or harder or easier to learn?
did practice the 18 just old frame 1 simplified.
Aikiman, are u the same person posts on taichiproduction? u had the same
topic there, yes, there is dvd & vcd on the 18 form.
ps. hanxiongbabei,there are good points about the 18 & 19 on
TAICHIPRODUCTIONS forum,just go to the cite.
eseto, yes, I just found this blog yesterday, I usually hang around taichiproduction
hanxiongbabei, if you have Lao Jia Yi Lu back ground, 18 stroke is easy to learn and if you already have Xin Jia background 19 steps can be pick up more easily, but for beginner then I would suggest, learn Lao Jia Yi Lu, 73 stroke
actually i done both but don’t quite know how 19 steps was derived and therefore found 18 steps easier.
but there is left hand punch in the 19 which the 18 doesn’t have. ok, will swing by taichiproduction when i have the time!
i never learnt 18-19 before and never like the idea of shortened routines. i appreciate the reason they are created for the busy urban ppl but i guess usually these ppl have no time to do a 18 stroke set too :p
I’ve learned feng’s 24. It is a mix of lao jia and xin jia
If I’m short on time, I’d probably do the CXW 38 posture form for the variety it has. Though sometimes I just work on the first section of laojia over and over and that’s good too.
1st section? it is up to the 3rd Pound Mortar?
the 19 form routine is by Chen Xiaowang; the 18 form routine is by Chen Zhenglei.
There is also the 13 forms (executed in Old Frame, New Frame, or Small Frame) by Zhu Tiancai. And to expand, the 42 forms of Wang Xian. Then there is the Standardized 36 forms, the Competition 56 Forms, the Application 32 and 32 Cannon Fist by Master Peter Wu. The number of shorter modern forms developed by masters and grandmasters are numerous.
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